What was similar and what was different between the Suicide Squad comic and the film? What elements, including characters, from the comic could have made the movie better? What elements from the comic, including characters, would have made the movie worse?
This topic could also include the Suicide Squad animated movie. I haven't watched the new movie or read the comics but my love for the animation is what makes me hesitant, since it was so well done. What elements were in both, what was left out? They're both just movies so it's perhaps easier to go into what could and should have been cut to fit an appropriate feature length. – Slaidey8 years ago
The shared the adventurous, defeat a villain and their army aspect, but what the film lacked was a central point. There was no room for character development with such a huge cast and many characters to follow. The film itself should have lastes at least 2.5 hours if not 3 hours. Really hoping the extended edition fixes this problem. – carlospena8 years ago
The comic was way better. They tried to put ever comic into the movie in under 2 hours. – mikka13218 years ago
Since the film has been made and a trailer (maybe more than one) has been released as well – let's give some background to comic readers who may not know about WW. Explain Wonder Woman's relationship with herself, the Justice League, and how she came to be who she is today. Also, tieing in the new comic series she has had and seeing where the movie could potentially take from that instead of taking from the older versions of Wonder Woman.
This has already been published here: https://the-artifice.com/wonder-woman-history/ – Misagh8 years ago
Thank you! I meant an updated version [I added it in there], she has a new comic series out from 2016! I wanted to focus on that and how the movie will (maybe) adapt to the newer comics being made recently instead of adapting to the older ones and making it more updated in a sense – scole8 years ago
Within comics and movies, heroes have slowly been developing more flaws while villains are beginning to produce a more human face. More so, with the rise fandoms, readers and fans have begun to appreciate both; picking favourites and encouraging this type of development for characters. By examining older heroes and villains and how they have developed/changed over time, as well as, the rise of the "flawed hero" and the "human villain", are we slowly entering an age where there is no right answer? Or will "true villains" be forced to be purely "evil"? Analyze both the negatives and positives of this within a writing context — will this change how plots and characters are being written? Will the definitions of what a "villain" or "hero" are, have to change? And will this bring in a new era of "grey" as opposed to the archaic, early form of writing that was strictly black and white? Or is our perception of the "character", "plot" and writing becoming deeper and more advanced?
Interesting topic, but please make sure to go over it to fix some minor punctuation errors. "Favourites" is actually spelled without the "u." Also, commas must be placed within the parenthesis. You also end your fourth sentence with both a question mark and period, which you cannot do. – Diego Santoyo8 years ago
Diego, I believe Canadians and the British spell favorite with the u, Americans don't. – Tigey8 years ago
I wasn't able to update my topic before it became accepted, so here is the proposed revision: Within comics and movies, heroes have slowly been developing more flaws while villains are beginning to produce a more human face. More so, with the rise fandoms, readers and fans have begun to appreciate both; picking favourites and encouraging this type of development for characters. By examining older heroes and villains and how they have developed/changed over time, as well as, the rise of the "flawed hero" and the "human villain", are we slowly entering an age where there is no right answer? Or will "true villains" be forced to be purely "evil"? Analyze both the negatives and positives of this within a writing context -- will this change how plots and characters are being written? Will the definitions of what a "villain" or "hero" are, have to change? Compare and contrast the potential backlash and consequences. Will this suspension of "grey" initiate a return to the classic hero? Or will this bring in a new era of "grey" as opposed to the archaic, early form of writing that was strictly black and white? Or is it our perception of the "character", "plot" beginning to change into something new; bringing in a new era of writing that is deeper and more advanced? Possible characters to look at may include: Joker, Bucky Barnes, Jesse Pinkman, and Jean Valjean, Dexter, etc. – Mela8 years ago
A character that could be a good focus on the gray area concept would be Deadpool. Although comedic, the character displays characteristics that could classify him as both hero and villain. – AngeloCruz8 years ago
Another good character to focus on could be Tony Stark from Iron Man, who is the perfect example of a flawed hero. – mariamvakani8 years ago
A good character to focus on is Walter from Breaking Bad. Lots see him as an evil man and others see him as a man who did bad things but with good intentions. – sabrinakasymov8 years ago
A major problem with super villains is that after they are defeated and captured they break out of jail to reek havoc again. So what should happen to these trouble makers? Take a look at how different comics deal with this problem and the frustrations and morality struggles heroes face from it. For example, in one of the Crisis on Two Earths stories Superman performs lobotomies on villains to stop them but it is seen as immoral action. In many cases heroes are tempted to kill villains to stop their terror once and for all.
How the method used to deal with villains is a reflection of how society does/should/shouldn't deal with criminals should also be taken into account. Media doesn't exist in a vacuum. – Amanda9 years ago
This is a fantastic topic! I think the moral aspect is the most important in this discussion, and should be the focus. Make sure to consider super villains that also have the ability to do good/have some form of a moral stand. I look forward to reading this! – LilyaRider9 years ago
Definitely look at DC's Arkham Asylum and Marvel's "The Vault" as examples of "super-max prisons" and how they do (or don't) work in the context of the greater comic universe. – Tarben8 years ago
Sometimes there's a beautiful balance – like peas and carrots, pie and ice cream, Laurel and Hardy – between entertainment partners. Sometimes… not so much. In politics, Nancy whispered answers to Ronnie, Cheney pulled Bush's strings, and for eight years Hillary ran the White House while Bill diddled.
Of course, the same is true in entertainment. In music, Simon really didn't need Garfunkel, Hall didn't need Oates, and Diana Ross didn't need the Supremes. Regarding TV, it's said that "Eddie Murphy's success went to Joe Piscopo's head."
Which comic book character duos – for example, Batman and Robin – are equally necessary? Which are not? Which seem equal but are imbalanced? Which seem imbalanced but are equal? Why do these pairings either work or fail?
This looks like a really good concept. I would narrow it down to comics though as that is the topic. For example, Green Hornet and Kato and the Lone Ranger and
Tonto. One perspective to take could be how this portrayal has changed over time. I read that when Jay Chou took over Bruce Lee's role as Kato, there were changes made to his role. Here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8uZiniM5jU. Also, Seth Rogen playing the Green Hornet made it clear that Jay Chou, charismatic music star, wouldn't be a suitable person to be following orders. Also, I would re-examine the title. How about "Dynamic Duos: For Better or Worse.". Just a suggestion. I have a thing about titles, and not just trying to maximize the search engine optimization, although that is very, very important. I try to put myself in the reader's seat so that when scrolling through all that is present on the internet, hopefully this will be a competitive title which will grab the elusive attention of an audience bombarded with all kinds of attention grabbing headlines. – Munjeera8 years ago
I don't agree with all the claims made here, but I like the way you've written it and I'm sure it could be a very engaging article. – TKing8 years ago
Munjeera, that's not some arbitrary "thing about titles," that's just good writing and I appreciate your sharp intellect catching my oversight. TKing, everything I wrote must be true. I read it on the Internet. 😜 – Tigey8 years ago
With the recent events in the Civil War II – (untimely things) – let's talk about the evolution of the Hulk. Who the Hulk is and where he has come from. How his character has grown and at times not so grown. No one really talks about the Hulk in terms of how he grew up and how he arrived at where he was today. Specifically in the comics, since for one, the films never really were praised until Mark Ruffalo became the Hulk. I really think talking about the comics and his story arc and where he has come from in the series' would be so great to see!
This is interesting...especially due to a previous topic discussing the amount of time spent on the background story of superheroes as distracting and time consuming, but it is true, I really am not very aware of the Hulk's background, other than the very bare, and minimal preliminary facts that occurred during his accident in the lab. Maybe that really is all that is to it, and that is why not much time has been dedicated to his backstory? Please remember, this is coming from someone who is not familiar with comics, at all!!! – danielle5778 years ago
Love the child is father to the man aspect. – Tigey8 years ago
Although you mentioned that this topic would specifically focus on comic verse, I think it would be worth analyzing the movie verse as well. Yes, the Hulk has greatly gained popularity with Mark Ruffalo, however, his character which made great development in the Avengers regressed with Age of Ultron movie events. Perhaps a compare and contrast with comic vs. movie verse treatment and what this means for the character's overall representation would be interesting to work with – Mela8 years ago
Civil War II??!? Want to focus on what Civil War II continues from the first one, what is different and what is the same. What should be and what should not be. We are having a lot of things derive from this Civil War series much like the first one – spin-offs, characters deaths, characters stepping down and so much more! What will this mean for the Marvel Universe? Did they create this Civil War in order to transition characters out and makes a storyline for new ones? Because it is starting to seem like that in some cases. What will this lead to for the MCU in regards to what's next for 2017 and even the end of 2016?
Today has been a day of learning so much about comics and DC and Marvel franchises! The Civil War I was insane and I enjoyed it immensely. I completely endorse and hope for a spin off, and cannot foresee one not being conceived due to the success of the first one. There are definitely multiple transitions taking place, and unfortunately, deaths are occurring. Some of which, are upsetting especially for people like myself who are unfamiliar with the storylines due to not having prior insight through not having read the comic books. This is a cool topic that I'd be interested to see what someone has to say, and even more interested to read the responses generated from the person's article!! – danielle5778 years ago
Are you suggesting that they're "jumping the shark?" – Tigey8 years ago
The greatness that is Paper Girls and what this means for a really good comic series. What the plot does for future comics, what the characters do for future comics and how the future of Paper Girls is looking for comic readers. There is not much to say about the evolution of Paper Girls without spoiling it for whoever is writing it – but, there is so much to say about the characters and the plot, where it will go and where it is going now!
After having just read an article that mentioned this comic series, along with Saga, I am now intrigued with Paper Girls and would love to learn more. I am very new to comics, and though I was at first apprehensive, I feel not giving this medium a chance would be a loss, on my part. – danielle5778 years ago
Cool topic. Hopefully Iron Woman will be as dark as "the good black earth," in Curtis Mayfield's words. – Tigey8 years ago